Finally, a Status Update!
It’s been nearly 18 months since my last post. So much has happened. It’s a shame that I stopped posting every little detail along the way, but here’s a summary of what’s been happening in my WVO project.
First, the truck (a 2002 Ford F-250 w/ 7.3L PSD) is still running great and is about to hit 310k miles. I’ve had a few minor bumps along the way, but very happy overall. I’ll cover the collection and filtering strategy I’ve been using for the past 12-14 months, the problems I can recall, modifications I’ve made to my truck, and try to back-post the Blackstone UOA reports that I have done at each oil change interval.
Collection of WVO
I had been collecting Canola based WVO in small quantities (15-20 gal weekly). That source became unavailable and then when the source was available again, they had switched to a partially hydrogenated soybean based oil. Not an option for me. Too bad.
I ended up collecting Soybean based WVO from two local restaurants. I put a 55-gal drum at each site and used the lids described on 03/23/2009. I’m now using different lids. More about that in a moment. I pickup from both restaurants every 15-17 days. Here’s the process from start to finish. Takes about 50 minutes at each restaurant plus a little over an hour of driving, plus another 15 minutes to unload the drums when I get home. Just over 3 hours total.
- Load necessary items in truck:
- Two empty 55-gal drums
- Container with 12v pump and hoses, and PVC pipe (read #3).
- Bucket with custom pickup screen: The pickup side of the pump uses some sort of reinforced clear HVAC/plumbing hose with a thread connection on the end. I can quickly thread my original pickup screen (small and clogs easily) or my custom pickup screen onto the end. I also carry a 3-ft PVC with the same male thread on one end and female thread on the other end so that I can add it in line. Using the PVC extension makes pickup from barrels much easier. The custom pickup screen is just an 8 to 12-inch round half-sphere irrigation/drainage cage with metal screen material wrapped around it and safety wired at the top. I had to use various connectors and a section of hose to adapt from the thread on the cage to the thread on my PVC pipe. The screen material can be purchased in rolls (for screen doors and windows). I use black screen, but silver is also available. The screen provides so much surface area for WVO to pass through, that I hardly ever have clogs or slow pumping.
- 5-gal bucket
- Roll of heavy-duty “shop” paper towels (ie: $10 at Lowes)
- Disposable gloves (ie: cheap at Harbor Frieght, also at Lowes or HD)
- Work gloves (I buy new gloves for yard/garden work and use the old gloves for WVO, repeat if the old gloves need to be replaced)
- Drive to store #1, check oil level (on the way to/from store #2)
- Drive to store #2, check oil level
- Record today’s date and both levels. This helps you figure out a schedule and estimate the next time you have to pickup. Keep in mind I have to drive an hour round-trip to pickup, so I want to avoid going too early. Because of my particular arrangement, I don’t want to call to ask the restaurants to check their oil levels for me. I usually arrive when each barrel has 45-55 gal of WVO. I’ve had a couple messes where they dumped more WVO than I expected and overfilled the barrels because they weren’t paying attention. To be fair, it’s hard to see the level at night or when it’s fairly full. I do my best to cleanup the mess when this has happened. Be prepared. No fun.
- Begin pickup at store #2. Here’s the process in detail:
- Put on new pair of disposable gloves
- Remove lid from the full drum at store
- Remove lid from one empty drum in my truck
- Run hose from pump to empty drum in truck
- Secure hose to empty barrel with plastic clamp
- Thread the custom pickup screen onto my pickup hose
- Use plastic clamp to secure pickup hose to full drum
- Connect 12v pump to 12v quick connect hanging just under the rear passenger-side anchor point on the truck bed (there are several small holes under there. just ran the wiring up to one of those holes and used a zip-tie to secure the quick connect adapter in place)
- Begin pumping WVO from full barrel, careful not to pickup any of the crud from the bottom of the barrel
- When I reach the settling line, I stop. Pull hose out of restaurant barrel and let pump clear the lines by filling them mostly with air. I usually start to see cream and/or debris coming through the clear pickup hose I’m using. This can occur with anywhere between 5-gal to 15-gal remaining in the barrel.
- Unthread/Remove my custom pickup screen from my pickup hose and store it in a small (1-gal?) bucket.
- Cleanup the ends of my hoses.
- Put my hoses back in the storage container that I use for my hoses and pump.
- Wipe off my disposable gloves so they are mostly clean.
- Put on dirty work gloves
- Slowly tip restaurant barrel side to side and watch the bottom of the barrel. As you continue to tip side to side, you’ll loosen the debris from the bottom of the barrel. Do this until it seems most of the debris is free.
- Pour the remaining oil and debris into your 5-gal bucket, then pour the bucket into the other grease container. Repeat until the 55-gal drum is empty. It will not be perfectly clean, but if you can get it mostly empty, you won’t have to come back to the restaurant as soon. If you don’t do this every time and let debris build up, you’ll just make things more difficult for yourself later.
- Cleanup pouring edges on your 55-gal drum and your 5-gal bucket.
- Remove dirty work gloves.
- Put lids back on restaurant 55-gal drum and the (now hopefully full) 55-gal drum in truck.
- Remove disposable gloves.
- Repeat steps at store #1. If my disposable gloves were pretty clean and didn’t tear, I use the same pair at both stores.
- When I’m finished at each store, I also record the approximate amount that I picked up (see barrel in truck) and the approximate amount that was dumped in the rendering company’s grease container (watch how much you put in your 5-gal bucket .. 2 full buckets = 10 gal, 1-1/2 buckets = 7.5 gal, etc) so that I can approximate my consumption and monitor waste levels.
- In the colder months (ie: consistently below 40 deg F), I have to take a 1400w drum band heater and a small portable 2000w generator with me to heat the WVO enough that I can pump it. When I first get to the restaurant, I put on disposable gloves, fire up the generator, wrap the heater band around the drum and plug it in. Depending on how cold it is, I sometimes have to wait 15-25 minutes and stir things up for a little while as it heats before I can actually begin pumping. At first, I was using heavy duty aluminum foil to protect the heater band from all the crap on the restaurant’s 55-gal drum. No matter how clean you try to keep things, it seems there is always a little bit of spill over on the outside of the drum. I had trouble with the foil getting baked/stuck onto the drum, so I tried using a strip of aluminum from the roofing area at Lowes/Home Depot. I had trouble keeping it clean though, because the heat would bake the sticky WVO onto the aluminum. Probably going back to heavy duty aluminum foil this winter. I think the foil will be best if I can find something fairly thick. I do put it with my recycling when I’m done, so I don’t feel too bad about the waste.
- When I get both drums back to the house, I use a collapsible engine hoist, a two foot heavy duty chain, and a 6-foot heavy duty strap (drum strap or towing strap?) to lift the drum out of the truck. I back the truck into the garage, lift a drum, pull the truck out of the garage, lower the drum 2-4 inches above the floor so that I don’t have to worry about the engine hoist tipping over, then roll the drum over to where I keep the others and lower it onto the floor. Repeat for second drum.
- That’s it! Repeat when I pickup again in a few weeks.
Custom 55-gal Lids for WVO Collection
I worked with a local shop to redesign the lids and address a few shortcomings that I experienced after using them last summer. The restaurants had trouble pouring into the original lid design because the opening was not close enough to the edge of the barrel. One of the hinges broke because people are pretty hard on these things. Both issues were resolved. Contact me if interested. I can accept online payments and am setup to ship, whereas they are not. The base price is $150 each, but we can do better on pricing if you are ordering multiple lids.
They use a computer controlled cutter, then weld everything together and have another local company powder-coat them. They spend most of their days welding custom projects, so the welds are all by hand and excellent. All in all, it takes 3-5 days to process an order for one or several lids. If you have a barrel with a ring, you can just remove the sealing lid and use the existing ring to secure this lid. I used to add a ring of weatherstripping around the bottom of the lid to seal it to the barrel, but ended up deciding this wasn’t necessary.
Filtering WVO
I let my drums sit for a week or two and then pump WVO from the top of the drums into my tanks. I can usually use all but the bottom 5-gal of WVO. I use my PVC pipe without a strainer to pickup WVO from the drum since the WVO was strained at the restaurant. This allows me to go to about 1-2 inches above the settling line without picking up cream or debris. I rely on the dual on-board Racor filters to catch anything that has not settled. I pour the unused WVO from the bottom of the barrel into my dirty barrel.
When the dirty barrel is full, I let it settle for a week or so, pump any clear/usable WVO from the top, then take the remaining to the local biodiesel company for credit toward Biodiesel (B99.9). They think my leftover WVO looks great, so I hate to imagine what they see/use.
I’ve completely abandoned the bag filters, drum filters, and other methods I’ve tried because the settling method work so well most of the year. I do have to use a band heater to heat the barrels so that they can settle in the winter. I haven’t been very satisfied with the results. I managed to accumulate a surplus of WVO this summer and gravity filtered it in advance. I’ve already pumped settled oil into a handful of drums and marked them as winter ready. My hope is that I can use those to get past the bulk of my settling problems and then wait until spring to settle out the drums that I’d otherwise take to the biodiesel company for B99.9.
I’ve also abandoned the use of 250-gal or 330-gal IBC containers. I just don’t feel like I’m handling enough WVO to justify using those containers. I can’t lift the full containers in/out of my truck. Even if I could, they don’t fit in my truck w/ the camper topper, whereas the drums DO fit under the topper. I was able to sell the containers and the pallet jack on Craig’s List for what I paid, so trying this approach didn’t hurt the pocketbook in the end. I was able to buy IBCs for $25-50 and sell them for $35-50. I was able to buy/sell the pallet jack for $225.
Success Stories
Before I list the couple problems I’ve had, I wanted to be sure that this isn’t all doom and gloom. Here are a few successes that make everything worthwhile.
- I drive about 30k per year. I save between $750-$900 per year in fuel compared to what I would pay for fuel if I drove a Prius (my 20mpg @ $3/gal vs Prius 45mpg @ $3/gal).
- I don’t have to drive a tiny Prius. I have a large truck with plenty of cargo room and ability to tow.
- Even with mods, the truck cost has been around $15k (Truck $8900 + GFS $4500, Exhast $450, Intake $330, Tuning $800). The project requires about a quarter of my garage (for drum storage) plus about 8 hours per month, plus any time I spend tinkering and learning. I love knowing how my truck works. I was very green when it came to most things under the hood before I undertook all of this, but I feel like I can now pinpoint most problems myself.
- I’ve driven to see nearby family (8 hours round-trip) countless times on WVO and far away family (20-26 hour round-trip) several times on WVO.
- I drive to see nearby vendors/customers (1 hour round-trip) many times each week on WVO. I’ve driven to see regional vendors/customers (3 hours round-trip) many times on WVO. I’ve driven to see other vendors/customers (40-50 hours round-trip) several times on WVO.
Problems Encountered
Here are a list of problems I have encountered over the past year or so. The first two are probably a result of operator error (my fault), while the last two may or may not be WVO related. I’m not including details regarding other general maintenance issues that have come up over the past year or so such as replacing my batteries, front wheel hub assemblies, fan clutch, fly-wheel and main seal, or having my alternator rebuilt, etc. All of those items total maybe $1500-2000.
- I was using modified (warmer) internal heaters in my Racor filters. The 200W heaters both failed for unknown reasons and the first replacement also failed. This happened sometime last winter. I suspect that I might have run the filters dry and the heaters did not have any type of overheat sensor to protect themselves. I am now using 75W heater wraps and insulating foam on the outside of the filter canisters (purchased from Golden Fuel Systems). With the insulation, the filters seem to reach the same temperature as before. Symptoms of heater failure include low fuel pressure, since quite a bit of WVO heat apparently comes from the filters. I usually see 60psi on the fuel supply. I was seeing the pressure gradually drop to 50-40-30-20 psi on the highway (65-70 mph) until horrible/unusable performance as I clogged my factory filter under the hood with cooler WVO. I unnecessarily replaced several factory filters before I realized that I was just clogging filters because my heaters had failed. I figured out that this was a heat issue when I realized that I could pull over and idle for 5-10 minutes to melt whatever had built up on the factory fuel filter. My fuel pressure would show the normal 60psi again for a while.
- I have two 60-gal tanks in my bed. I fill the “dirty” tank and then use a switch in my cab to pump fuel from the “dirty” tank through a Racor filter and into the “clean” tank. I’ve accidentally forgot to monitor progress and overflowed the clean tank on two separate occasions, making HUGE mess each time! I thought the overflow would return to the dirty tank, but apparently the hose between tanks is just an air vent. If this happens to you, it will ruin your day… and possibly everything you happen to have in the bed of your truck. 🙁
- My oil analysis is showing problems from either a coolant leak within the engine or possibly a WVO related issue, plus additional engine wear. See my separate UOA posts as I publish each analysis I’ve received. Per their recommendation, I’m planning to run diesel for an 3k oil change interval so they can tell me if that clears up the symptoms. My guess is that I do have a coolant leak, though the leak has slowed because I haven’t had to add coolant recently. I’m also guessing that I have extra engine wear due to WVO, though I’ve known/expected that to happen all along. Worse case scenario, I’m planning/prepared to replace the engine if it gets to that point. I don’t have a spare on hand, but have been keeping an eye out for a good deal on Craig’s List from time to time.
- My fuel pressure recently increased from 60psi to 75-85psi and sometimes even to the peg (100psi). The high pressure (possibly 100-120psi) cracked the cap for my fuel filter bowl under the hood and made a huge mess. A replacement cap held until I could take things apart and troubleshoot. When I took the assembly apart, I did find chunks of baked WVO in the pressure relief valve/housing. I cleaned it out but that did not solve the problem. There is a pressure relief valve on the top driver’s side of the fuel filter bowl that sends fuel back to the diesel tank via the return fuel line. There is a plunger and spring that keeps the pressure in the bowl at 60psi. I swapped those parts with a friend’s 7.3L and had the same problem. I swapped the *housing* with his 7.3L and problem was solved. Replacing the housing fixed the high pressure problem, though we do not understand why. When we compared the housings, his housing did look like it was in better condition, but we couldn’t see anything that would prevent the plunger from opening and result in the sporadic higher fuel pressure in my 7.3L PSD (75-100+ psi). Maybe a WVO issue, maybe not. Very strange.
Truck Modifications
My truck is a 2002 Ford F-250 w/ 7.3L PSD. I installed several supporting modifications so that I could ultimately install a tuner from DP Tuner to increase my MPG, which would obviously decrease the amount of Diesel and WVO that I consume. I start the truck on Diesel, wait for the engine to reach normal temperature, then switch to WVO. I switch back to Diesel about 5 minutes (or 2 miles) before I get home (or stop anywhere for an extended period of time).
- ISSPRO Gauge Set from Diesel Manor 08/2009 – Pre-Turbo Pyrometer, Transmission Temp, Fuel Pressure (0-100psi), Turbo Boost (0-30psi)
- Thermostat (203 deg F) and Thermostat Housing from Diesel Site 05/2010
- Switch from Green Coolant to Red Coolant (Fleetrite ELC) ~05/2010
- Silverline 4″ 409 Turbo-Back Exhaust from Alligator Performance 06/2010
- S&B Air Intake from Diesel Manor 07/2010
- F8 Chip and Live Tuning from Jody at DP Tuner 08/2010. I usually run the 60hp Economy tune and have been experiencing between 18-20mpg for the past two months. FYI – Jody monitored oil temps and recommended replacing the Thermostat (203 deg F) with my stock thermostat to avoid high temperature problems with his tunes.
Hi I favored the golden fuel systems kit and built my sytem on my 7.3 very similar to yours. With all of your experience in wvo I believe that you may have some answers to a couple of questions that I have looked everywhere for. 1) where can I find the 203 deg thermostat? I have looked everywhere and can’t seem to find anything larger than 180 deg. Needless to say I have cardboard in front of my radiator and on really cold days have to add some pump diesel to the mix. 2) I have heard that disconnecting the bowl heater thermostat could burn out the bowl heater, but what about changing out the thermostat to one that shut off at a higher temp? If yes, how high of a thermostat could I put on the bowl heater without burning it out too quickly and where might I find such a thermostat? I tried searching for liquid submerged thermostat, as not really sure as to what you would call it. I would be interested in speaking with you if possible as I have had all the same things with my system that you have talked about here. I just recently decided to get rid of the stock fuel filter and mechanical pump. (mine is pre psd 7.3 idi but otherwise the same goldenfuel style as yours) I am tired of changing that factory filter all the time and purging out all the air. Please email me back at … and let me know if it is alright to contact you.
I found the 203F thermostat and an aluminum housing at “dieselsite.com”. Ford recommends replacing their housing *every time* you replace the thermostat. You’ll see why if you ever remove it. It’s very thin to begin with and prone to rust. The aluminum housing is built amazingly well and doesn’t show any signs of wear after quite a bit of service Here are the direct links to those products.
DIESELSITE 203* Thermostat 203* (1996 (Engine Serial #201681)-2003 7.3L Powerstroke Thermostat) @ $35.99
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=186
Black Billet Aluminum Thermostat Housing (1999-2003 Ford 7.3L ONLY!) @ $46.85
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=188
During a live tuning session with Jody at DP Tuner last summer, he said that the oil temperatures were getting pretty high without any load and recommended *not* running the 203F thermostat during the summer or when running a heavy load to prevent engine damage due to excessive heat. I tried running a light load (empty 2-axle enclosed trailer) on a 45F-50F day with one of his towing tunes and my engine overheat light did come on. To be fair, I was trying to hurry that day so I was hauling up and down pretty large hills at about 78mph on the interstate. I backed off to 65-70mph and the light went out within 15-30 seconds. I had no other issues during that 4-hour drive.
I assume you are referring to the larger Racor 1000 shown on this page?
http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com/products_fuel_filters.php
I’m running two of these Racor 1000 filters (one on each 60-gal GFS Trekker tank) and have had numerous problems with the custom internal heaters/thermostats. I replaced several before abandoning them completely. It turns out that I’d run my tanks low enough that the heaters were no longer submerged in liquid. When this happens, the thermostats are not effective and the heaters essentially burn themselves out. GFS stopped selling the internal heaters with custom thermostats and I was unable to find replacements. For what it’s worth, the heaters are from Racor and the custom thermostats are called “disc thermostats”. I just couldn’t find a source. The source GFS used was no longer available. Even an engineering person at Racor was aware of the custom thermostats, but didn’t know where to find them.
GFS now recommends external heaters and custom cut foam that wrap around the outside of the Racor 1000. They claim that the oil passing through the filter is heated just as well with these external heaters as it was with their custom internal heaters. The external heaters use less power but the foam wrap/insulation makes them more efficient. GFS did say that I can *NOT* run their internal heaters with the foam wrap because they generate so much heat that internal components of the Racor filter would actually melt. I’m guessing that means you shouldn’t run the internal heaters with an even higher thermostat.
I only have to change my stock fuel filter at normal maintenance intervals (10k or 15k?). Are you saying that you have to change your factory fuel filter regularly? The only time I had to change factory fuel filters early was the first time my Racor 1000 internal heater died. I didn’t realize what was happening, but my fuel pressure gauge was showing 60psi, then gradually dropped to 50psi-40psi-30psi-20psi. Changing the fuel filter temporarily resolved the problem. I replaced the filter several times before I finally realized the Racor heater had died. I figured this out when my fuel pressure dropped to 20psi and returned to 60psi after I left the truck idle for about 10-15 minutes.